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Message 00593: Re: nytimes

I managed to escape a bill so far

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Carl Malamud <xxxxxxx@media.org> wrote:
> the most effective way to make the nytimes thing is to be actively and
> honestly working with me on the plan b.
> my original story was that if the nytimes didn't publish a piece, I'd carry
> out my threat in the third and final notices to start contacting the name
> parties.  Well, January expired and the story didn't run, so I did exactly
> what I said I would do.  This story would have been dead (despite the
> stellar job Schwartz did to conduct all the interviews, not to mention the
> secretarial work I did to set him up on all those interviews ... names,
> dates, contact info).  But, the fourth and really, really final notices have
> helped a lot ... we're still live.
> If we are truly about to be a big story because we did all that, it is
> really important that we actually be moving on towards the next step.
>  Otherwise we are just a press release.
> How much was your bill?  Would you join in a letter to the chief justice
> asking that he pay us back?  If so, I'd be happy to send you a draft letter
> tomorrow.  Maybe we'll get lucky and not have to use it.
> Carl
> On Feb 10, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Aaron Swartz wrote:
>> right, what I mean is that if the NYT piece doesn't go I'm totally up
>> for using my name with stunts like forwarding the criminal attorney
>> bill
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Carl Malamud <xxxxxxx@media.org> wrote:
>>> On Feb 10, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Aaron Swartz wrote:
>>>>>> and if the schwartz gives up on getting the nyt piece out, i'm happy
>>>>>> to talk about alternate ways of going public
>>>>> heh.  that train has left the station ...
>>>> ?
>>> This is already semi-public, just not publicized.  that is the
>>> uscourts.gov
>>> page.  We've had a major WIRED piece, Ambrogi is tracking it, we're
>>> getting
>>> daily uploads to our scribd area.
>>> That process will continue ... I have a letter from ILCD ready to
>>> publish,
>>> likewise a letter to the Veteran's court of appeals.  John knows about
>>> all
>>> this.
>>> I'm looking at a variety of plan b's just in case nytimes doesn't happen.
>>> That's what I wrote to you about ... I will continue to publish any
>>> letters
>>> from the courts as they occur, will probably fire off a couple more
>>> letters,
>>> and just wanted to know how public you wanted to be.  For example, one
>>> plan
>>> B I'm considering is to send my bill for $992.50 from our criminal lawyer
>>> to
>>> the chief justice and ask him to pay it since the AO of the Courts
>>> totally
>>> overreacted.
>>> It is not a big problem if you don't want you name used ... I had reached
>>> the point where I thought that would be useful and definitely wanted to
>>> ask
>>> you before doing so.  I hear you and Schultze and it is ok not to use
>>> your
>>> names.
>>> Carl