Re: Patent data re-visited

[Aaron Swartz <xx@aaronsw.com>]

what about some kind of foia? they're not DOC, right?

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Carl Malamud <xxxxxxx@media.org> wrote:
> yeah, but if we do that, I want my pound of flesh as well ... there is no
> reason to just fork over the money without causing a bit of a ruckus and
> seeing of we can get the patent office into this business again ... I
> suppose I could crawl them again.  It isn't that hard to do (but the
> underlying xml sure would be nice).
>
> On Feb 6, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Aaron Swartz wrote:
>
>> seems like it just takes cash
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Carl Malamud <xxxxxxx@media.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> i so much did not want to be back in the patent business.  that's why I
>>> tried to ignore the binder issue.
>>>
>>> ok, this is pretty high on my list ...
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Aaron Swartz wrote:
>>>
>>>> not that I know of. it sucks.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Carl Malamud <xxxxxxx@media.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> well, this is annoying.  does anybody have full text of u.s. patents
>>>>> from
>>>>> 2002 on available for general use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Dinesh B Vadhia" <xxxxxxx@hotmail.com>
>>>>> Date: January 13, 2009 1:56:10 AM PST
>>>>> To: "Carl Malamud" <xxxxxxx@media.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Patent data re-visited
>>>>> Hi Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> This might be useful to know wrt the US patents.
>>>>>
>>>>> The patents on http://bulk.resource.org/patent/us/ are full-Text/APS
>>>>> format
>>>>> files for the years 1976-2001 (inclusive).  These files are the
>>>>> complete
>>>>> patents.
>>>>>
>>>>> The USPTO site ftp://ftp.uspto.gov/pub/patdata/ contains patent files
>>>>> for
>>>>> the years 2002 to 2008 BUT they are only Bibliographic patent files
>>>>> which
>>>>> are defined as the information on the front page of each patent.  I've
>>>>> checked a sample of these files and they are bibliographic patent
>>>>> files.
>>>>> Additionally, from 2002 these files changed format from APS to XML.
>>>>>
>>>>> To obtain the full-Text/XML patent files for the years 2002 to 2008
>>>>> costs
>>>>> $1,300 per year.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Carl Malamud
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:59 AM
>>>>> To: Dinesh B Vadhia
>>>>> Subject: Re: Patent data
>>>>> ftp://ftp.uspto.gov/pub/patdata/ doesn't do it for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Dinesh B Vadhia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, both the USPTO and freepatentsonline charge quite
>>>>>> hefty sums for archived data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Carl Malamud
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:24 AM
>>>>>> To: Dinesh B Vadhia
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Patent data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The patent office was making bulk data available by ftp ... I'd start
>>>>>> with them and see what they have.  If they don't have it, you might
>>>>>> try freepatentsonline or one of the other services and see if they can
>>>>>> help you out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2008, at 8:20 AM, Dinesh B Vadhia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Carl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just came across this truly wondeful site - what a treasure
>>>>>>> trove!  On the patent page (http://bulk.resource.org/patent/?
>>>>>>> C=N;O=A) it says that the patent data is from the period 1983 to
>>>>>>> 2000.  How does one go about getting patent data to date?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank-you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dinesh Vadhia
>>>>>>> CEO
>>>>>>> Xyggy Corporation
>>>>>>> Mountain View, CA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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