Re: usps data

[Carl Malamud <xxxx@media.org>]

On Aug 11, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Aaron Swartz wrote:

> > Just got back yesterday but Lessig has me in pali alto today (only  
> > day he
> > has available), so not really back until tomorrow.  Would order the  
> > second
> > product before engaging the enemy ... Let me know if you want me to  
> > order.
>
> Yeah, it's probably worth the $350 -- product ID DS215R. Say hi to
> Lessig for me.

I told Larry I had no luck getting you a c4 lawyer ... I think change  
congress is a c4, so he might have a name.


Following up on the postal service data, I think you can go live  
anytime you want, but I'd be careful to make sure that you are  
"extracting the facts" from their "product".  I mentioned this issue  
briefly to Lessig and he reinforced my feeling that this is a case  
where we might argue that they don't get copyright as a government  
entity but we would *also* argue that even if they could have  
copyright, this is just facts.

This is not as clearcut as, e.g., copyright on the law, so I'd like to  
make sure we have a true Feist-compatible product.  And, if you do  
have such a thing, I'm more than happy to mirror the data.  I'm just  
not ready to simply copy their dvd's to my ftp server and declare them  
public property.

I will order their other product and I will send you your august disks  
on the existing products.

> > Sent from my.phone.org.
>
> Man, you got all the good domains -- you were much more farsighted
> than I was! Is there a list of yours somewhere? And how did you
> neglect to get library.org?

I actually only registered the ones I needed.  phone.org and fax.org  
because Marshall and me were running a telephone company.  Then,  
Marshall found out Mockapetris was still administrator for .int and he  
snagged us tpc.int.  Marshall's line at the IETF plenary where we  
described tpc.int was "you may not be familiar with the .int top-level- 
domain.  it has only two participants, nato and ourselves, and one of  
us is still considered dangerous."

But, I definitely missed some lucrative warehousing options, just  
because it wasn't done.  Phone.org is actually my personal property  
and I keep hoping Google Android or Nokia or some Verizon community  
astroturf effort will buy it from me so I can get enough money to buy  
some cheap house in a rural area.  It's my retirement name.  :))

Carl